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 Ontario Hansard 
        Wednesday, October 31, 2001Question Period
 
 
 Mr Dalton McGuinty 
        (Leader of the Opposition): My question is forthe Minister of Citizenship. You will recognize that the Premier
 made a very specific promise to enact an Ontarians with
 Disabilities Act. You will also know how long ago he made that
 promise. You will also know how long it has been that the one and
 a half million Ontarians with disabilities have waited for him to
 deliver on that promise. It's been nearly seven years. Minister,
 we understand now that you could be introducing a bill on this
 subject as soon as tomorrow. Three years ago, on a resolution
 proposed by our party, this House unanimously adopted 11
 principles to be incorporated in this new piece of legislation.
 Will you commit today that your bill will abide by the 11
 principles unanimously supported by this House?
 Hon Cameron Jackson 
        (Minister of Citizenship, ministerresponsible for seniors): I'm sure the honourable member is aware
 that I have responded to this and several other questions about
 the ODA in the last few weeks. He would also be aware that we
 have consulted quite widely with disabled groups and individuals
 and stakeholders across the province. The principles that he
 suggests have been widely discussed. It would appear, perhaps,
 that the member opposite has not had much of a consultation with
 municipalities. I cite one example which I have cited in the
 House before, that if the Liberal Party fully supports complete,
 overriding provisions in the Municipal Act, as one example, that
 is not an issue which municipalities are encouraged about. But
 when the honourable member sees the legislation, when it's
 tabled, he will see very clearly that these principles have been
 strongly considered and that there are opportunities in this
 legislation to move forward for persons with disabilities, unlike
 any other government has done in Canada.
 Mr McGuinty: 
        Minister, I distinguish between something that isstrongly considered and something that is unequivocally endorsed,
 and I'm sure that the Ontarians with disabilities will listen
 with great interest to your response. Our party has been fighting
 for nearly seven years to get a strong and effective Ontarians
 with Disabilities Act, but that's not nearly as long as David
 Lepofsky and his committee have been fighting for this. Minister,
 it's one thing to keep the one and a half million Ontarians with
 disabilities waiting this long and it's quite another to shut
 them out of the process to lend shape to the actual legislation.
 That would be to add insult to injury. I'm asking on their behalf
 that the committee to which will be assigned the responsibility
 to deal with this new piece of legislation will travel
 immediately after first reading and that it won't just stay here
 in Toronto but it will go to Thunder Bay and Windsor and Ottawa
 and points in between. Minister, do I have your commitment that
 this legislation will go to committee after first reading and
 that the committee will travel?
 Hon Mr Jackson: 
        This question has already been raised and it hasalready been responded to. But I want to go back to what the
 member has asked about the 11 principles. If there is anything
 that the disability community has waited for over the last seven
 years, it has also been a commitment from the Liberal Party and
 the Liberal opposition. Just in your own report of your
 assessment of the situation confronting disabled persons in this
 province, you indicate that after you publish a reiteration of
 the principles-are you prepared to fund them, are you prepared to
 cost them, are you prepared to commit to them? No, you are not.
 What the Liberals will do is that they feel-and I quote directly
 from their report-that this is a good starting point for any
 discussions regarding any future legislation. That's the problem.
 You would sit and discuss it for six years, like you did when you
 were the government. This government is going to table disability
 legislation that all disabled persons can be proud of in this
 province.
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